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    Hello to everyone. I'm working on becoming a developer, I have been taking courses on CodeSchool.com and it has been very helpful, I recently have been looking into a programming academy (3 actually) 1: HackReactor 2: AppAcademy 3: CodingDojo I'm wondering if you guys have any suggestions or comments on the academy route, vs the school (in my case, it would have to be Arizona State), but school will take 3 years or so.
    Irize posted this question on 12/26/13 | javascript, beginner, academy, school
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  • I was in this same boat about 3 months ago, and I ultimately decided to go with Hack Reactor because of its amazing reputation and unbeatable statistics: * 98% hiring rate upon graduation * $110,000 average salary * 800+ hours of instruction time within 12 weeks * 5 stars on Yelp www.yelp.com/biz/hack-reactor-san-francisco Some observations after researching countless blogs: - graduating qualifies you for at least mid-level software engineering positions...in 3 months. Companies that hire Hack Reactor graduates include: Google, Adobe, Groupon, Yahoo - hyper-accelerated, constantly optimized curriculum www.hackreactor.com/blog/coding+schools+development+bootcamp+coding+bootcamp+learn+javascript [first 6 weeks] covers full stack programming and fundamental computer science in 2 day sprints [last 6 weeks] focuses on starting and finishing personal and group projects; opportunity to work on paid, professional projects commissioned by real companies [course-long] technical interview coaching and practice problems, readying you for demoing and interviewing on Hiring Day with 20+ companies - only coding school that primarily teaches Javascript which 1) is now getting more use over other web development languages, 2) allows you to program both client-side and server-side, and 3) enables you to create desktop-like applications on the web - opportunity to attend Meetups (professional talks and/or parties for software engineers), participate in hacking competitions, and have industry guest speakers visit Hack Reactor on a regular basis Caveats: > PRICE! $17,780 (of which $2,000 for a depsosit is due two months before your start date). It's expensive, but you're paying for top-quality education from instructors and staff with insane pedigrees (former software engineers from Twitter, Adobe, Google, etc.), a space conveniently located right in downtown SF, and breakfast at school every morning! www.quora.com/Hack-Reactor/How-does-Hack-Reactor-justify-its-higher-cost >>> One way to alleviate costs comes in the form of Upstart upstart.com. I'm currently an Upstart, and most of my tuition has been funded by super awesome Backers who acknowledge the value of Hack Reactor and believe in me and the program (my Upstart profile: www.upstart.com/upstarts/rod-calumpong). But you have to be a college graduate (Eligibility rules: www.upstart.com/questions/42914-Am-I-eligible-to-participate-in-Upstart). > Time and Commitment: Prepare to say goodbye to your social life for 3 months, if you're going to school from 8am-9pm six days a week for twelve weeks. You also have to properly prepare for the curriculum with mandatory pre-course work that supposedly can take 100+ hours. And of course, you have to pass the interviews! Hack Reactor is exceptionally selective, but the interview process is unlike any you've done before (they're actually fun!). Comparisons: + I actually applied to App Academy because of their pricing guarantee (pay nothing unless you find a job as a developer), but they focus a lot on Ruby. Even the latest blog on their site from August, 2013 has a student super excited about learning Javascript. I haven't seen a lot of news come out of their school, so I'm not sure how it's doing. + I also haven't seen a lot of transparency with App Academy and Coding Dojo in regards to current alumni status, hiring rates, and salary after graduating (App Academy's main page says 95% hiring rate after graduation, $91,000 average start salary, but no date is attached). And I'd say those are big factors in determining which programs are successful in their education. I think the most up to date information will probably be on their FB pages: App Academy: www.facebook.com/hashmaplabs Coding Dojo: www.facebook.com/CodingDojodotco + As for traditional school vs accelerated education, that's a big decision you'll have to weigh personally. Even with Upstart, you have to have or be working towards a college degree, and the job I have now (as a teacher) required that I have a degree from a 4 year university. But if you primarily want to work in programming, you don't necessarily need a degree. I went to a 4 year college as a Computer Science major but was underprepared after graduation, learning about programming strictly from university courses. There were no courses on learning how to learn, github, version control, technical interviews, the full process of deploying apps, aka the real world stuff. But times have probably changed in 6 years, so if they do have those courses: take them! And you do get a well-rounded education, and it's your chance to explore what you really want to do. Bottom line, a traditional school will let you figure out what you want to do, and if you absolutely know that it's web programming, I highly recommend Hack Reactor. Good luck!
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  • Hi Irize, Few months ago, I was also suffering from same condition. At that time, One of my colleagues suggested me a programming Academy named GoLive Labs ( www.golivelabs.io/ ) and asked to join its training program. Once I was not interested to attend its training session, because it was a new growing company in Bay Area, but when I visited on their training programs, I was wondered to see that they are covering advanced level courses in small amount and 100% job placement. Immediately, I joined a course there. So, Now I am front end web developer in Bay Area. I specially thanks to my colleague and GoLive Labs team who helped me to get this job. I also want to suggest you and everyone to connect with GoLive Labs team. Good Luck..
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  • Thank you for the response AiNoKame!
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